Proposed New rules for Season 2006/2007
Proposed changes to be introduced in Senior Men’s League Rules.
Please download and read 2005/2006 rule from IOHA web.
--ON Season Club to Club player transfer
Currently the only rule is "players are allowed to only one transfer per year". No forms need to be submitted.
Change to "A transfer form need to be submitted signed by the two club secretary and the player"
This in order to have a record or transfers and having all clubs to acknowledge the transfer
Obviously still only one transfer is possible.
--OFF season Club to Club player transfer
Currently no rules exist, and players can freely change team every year.
Change to "Players are owned by the club for the current season and the next".
A transfer form needs to be submitted signed by the two club secretary and the player
This rule will protect clubs. UCD saw three of its players changing team over summer, without any note from the other club or the players themselves.
--Teams are responsible to book hall time for their home matches (minimum of 2 hours per match)
I understand the having my self doing the booking for all matches fro the full year is "handy". But it start getting annoying when I have to chase teams and hall management. Also UCD got charged by St Columbas for matches UCD didn't play and considered responsible for people behaviour.
--Each Team must register two referees
Teams will be penalised of 1 point per referee not registered
Referee individual registration cost 25€...to be paid by the referee.
Referee courses will be organized ad-hoc if required
This is in accordance with the referee development plan
--Each Team must register a Coach (either L0 or L1, or enrolled in a coaching course to be attend before the end of the league)
Teams will be penalised of 2 point if coach is not registered
Over 18 coach individual registration cost 15€...to be paid by the coach.
Under 18 coach individual registration is free.
This is in accordance with the coaching development plan
--Teams will be entered only if not payment to the IOHA are pending. In case of new clubs a brief description of financial status should be submitted.
IOHA reserves to refuse entry if feels that clubs cannot fulfil payment commitment.
A few thousand Euro are still due to the IOHA form the past season. This is unacceptable, and IOHA need to protect itself.
Proposed changes to be introduced by season 2008/2009
--Club not registering a Junior team will have the senior Team penalised of 1 point per each category. (U17-U15-U13)
EOIN
are you serious about the junior team rule??? its nuts - most senior teams are colleges - force them to become clubs with junior teams and theres no more college money or hall time for the ioha...
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1) many college have NON STUDENT as players (see ianik and Nikolai)
2)these lads should start going in some school in their area and deliver handball coaching.
3)junior teams do not have necessarely have same name than college, as far the two are connected....
see UCD can provide coaches to st kevin and have a St Killian team. This would effectivelly dependes on UCD for coaching but not for money and facilities....
Do you get my idea?
One day UCD, DCU, DIT might simply die and it would be a big loss for handball......
EOIN
ah i know its the only way forward and its very noble but not really realistic...most players are only here for a year or so and wont take on a junior team...
the ones who are here for a while should be taking this on without being forced to!! (yes i have btw i coached a school team 2 years ago!!) how connected would they have to be?? could i invent a junior team and theyd just not show
to any matches because we only had '4 players on the day'? people are lazy and dishonest with some notable exceptions of course!!! theyd have to have the same name surely or it wouldnt work... what if somone like mick moloney and i coached a junior team together would that count for both clubs?
good idea in principle tho!
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Well we will have to find a way around issues like these. keep in mind that I said this rule should come in in three years...ish
Anonymous said... 1:18 pm, May 30, 2006
the junior rule is just a pre-april fools joke :)
Anonymous said... 6:54 am, June 27, 2006
No, it is not.
teams have 2-3 years to adapt!! And similar rules are applied in many other countries......
Anonymous said... 4:53 am, June 28, 2006
I'm pretty curious, how it will work with the referees. I mean, it won't be a problem for Cork to register 2 refs, but which matches are they supposed to manage? The Cork matches? I don't think so. Matches in Dublin? Well, that would be very expensive for the IOHA. And are the registered referees allowed to play for a team?
But, anyway, this is in my opinion, the best rule you made up. OK, the player transfer rules are not bad as well, especially for the Dublin teams. You can imagine, it doesn't affect Cork very much... ;o)
But the rules with the coach and the junior teams... sure, junior teams are a must for developing handball, but threat the clubs with point deduction is ridiculous. I guess, it will be hard enough for the Dublin teams to have one junior team, but three...? And to be honest, for Cork it will be impossible.
And isn't it the club's own thing, if they have an official coach? It's essential for junior teams, that's right, but for senior teams? Is the IOHA really dependent on that money?
Anonymous said... 8:33 am, June 29, 2006
well IOHA depends on any money can get.
The rule about point deduction can be discussed, but I would still introduce it somehow. I believe that two or three lads in Cork can organise them selves and start a junior team in some school. same should do UCD, DCU, DIT...... as said we have two-three years to find the best way to make it work.
Anonymous said... 2:00 am, July 01, 2006
schools in Cork are not interested in Olympic Handball - at least the 16 I went to! Only 5 of them had halls where you MIGHT be able to put half a junior field in it! I came to the conclusion that it is hopeless to find ANY school team! When one goes to a school without any body (e.g. IOHA) supporting they are just turned away - that was the response I got! And it is not very inspiring!
Anonymous said... 2:20 pm, September 11, 2006
can you write something more...name of school etc... then I'll bring it to the attention of IOHA. I noticed a gap between reality and what IOHA think it is reality!
Anonymous said... 6:03 pm, September 13, 2006
sorry I didn't check the blog again.... I shall ring you on this issue, coz I know what you mean - I share your view!
Anonymous said... 5:26 pm, September 26, 2006
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